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Superyacht Bayesian sank tycoon drowned

Post by kempoman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:23 pm

It's strange to me that a $30 millions pound SUPERyacht can't stand a storm with possibility like Rolex Deepsea flooded with water after submerged.

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Post by HapaHapa » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:51 pm

What I read is they think a water spout formed right on top of it.
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Post by kempoman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:31 pm

yeah but with all that 30 million built safety features?
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Post by bedlam » Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:35 am

kempoman wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:31 pm
yeah but with all that 30 million built safety features?
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Post by Ryeguy » Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:15 am

Yes, mother mother ocean can be a royal bitch sometimes.

Ultimately, the blame rests on the captain, in my opinion. There were thunderstorms reported in that area and he should have moved that ship out of the danger area. It isn’t like that ship didn’t have (likely state of the art) radios and weather alert systems. It also isn’t a situation where the vessel could not afford a slip in a marina for a few days until the weather cleared.

I think there is a degree of hubris involved, with the thinking that my 183’ yacht could never fail me, but Mother Nature has no problem (case in point) sending a vessel of that size to the bottom.

The point I think about is, this boat was a pleasure craft. They didn’t “need” to be out there. Even if the guests were upset about being stuck tied up to a dock instead of at sea, the old saying rings true - “I’d rather be stuck here wishing I was out there, then stuck out there wishing I was here.”

To be honest, I am sympathetic to the captain. I’m sure he suggested moving the vessel to port when he heard the weather report and was likely told by the vessel’s owner to stay out to sea. If he overrode that request and safely avoided the storm, he’d probably be fired.

There are lots of examples of this kind of thing. The Kobe Bryant helicopter crash springs to mind. The LA PD had grounded its helicopter fleet due to weather, yet Kobe’s helicopter took off, all to get to a kid’s basketball game.

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Post by kempoman » Thu Aug 22, 2024 6:49 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:15 am
Yes, mother mother ocean can be a royal bitch sometimes.

Ultimately, the blame rests on the captain, in my opinion. There were thunderstorms reported in that area and he should have moved that ship out of the danger area. It isn’t like that ship didn’t have (likely state of the art) radios and weather alert systems. It also isn’t a situation where the vessel could not afford a slip in a marina for a few days until the weather cleared.

I think there is a degree of hubris involved, with the thinking that my 183’ yacht could never fail me, but Mother Nature has no problem (case in point) sending a vessel of that size to the bottom.

The point I think about is, this boat was a pleasure craft. They didn’t “need” to be out there. Even if the guests were upset about being stuck tied up to a dock instead of at sea, the old saying rings true - “I’d rather be stuck here wishing I was out there, then stuck out there wishing I was here.”

To be honest, I am sympathetic to the captain. I’m sure he suggested moving the vessel to port when he heard the weather report and was likely told by the vessel’s owner to stay out to sea. If he overrode that request and safely avoided the storm, he’d probably be fired.

There are lots of examples of this kind of thing. The Kobe Bryant helicopter crash springs to mind. The LA PD had grounded its helicopter fleet due to weather, yet Kobe’s helicopter took off, all to get to a kid’s basketball game.
That makes sense.
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Post by BBK357 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:56 am

I’ve read that for some reason ships seem to sink easier if there is a tech CEO on board.
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Post by Chocodove » Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:34 am

BBK357 wrote:I’ve read that for some reason ships seem to sink easier if there is a tech CEO on board.
If I was Musk, Zuckerberg, etc. I would never get on a boat/submarine/carbon fiber death tomb.
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Post by Henryj » Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:49 pm

Chocodove wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:34 am
BBK357 wrote:I’ve read that for some reason ships seem to sink easier if there is a tech CEO on board.
If I was Musk, Zuckerberg, etc. I would never get on a boat/submarine/carbon fiber death tomb/airplane/balloon/stupidly expensive Porsche.
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Post by Captdave » Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:18 pm

Ryeguy wrote:Yes, mother mother ocean can be a royal bitch sometimes.

Ultimately, the blame rests on the captain, in my opinion. There were thunderstorms reported in that area and he should have moved that ship out of the danger area. It isn’t like that ship didn’t have (likely state of the art) radios and weather alert systems. It also isn’t a situation where the vessel could not afford a slip in a marina for a few days until the weather cleared.

I think there is a degree of hubris involved, with the thinking that my 183’ yacht could never fail me, but Mother Nature has no problem (case in point) sending a vessel of that size to the bottom.

The point I think about is, this boat was a pleasure craft. They didn’t “need” to be out there. Even if the guests were upset about being stuck tied up to a dock instead of at sea, the old saying rings true - “I’d rather be stuck here wishing I was out there, then stuck out there wishing I was here.”

To be honest, I am sympathetic to the captain. I’m sure he suggested moving the vessel to port when he heard the weather report and was likely told by the vessel’s owner to stay out to sea. If he overrode that request and safely avoided the storm, he’d probably be fired.

There are lots of examples of this kind of thing. The Kobe Bryant helicopter crash springs to mind. The LA PD had grounded its helicopter fleet due to weather, yet Kobe’s helicopter took off, all to get to a kid’s basketball game.
Well said Chris. Ultimately it’s the captain’s call. We can get fired but the employer doesn’t issue our licenses. The reason pilots don’t work for shipping companies but are independent. So they can do the right thing without pressure from the owner etc…


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