Tudor North Flag 91210N
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Tudor North Flag 91210N
"I like to think of Tudor as Rolex's Tyler Durden – an outlet for all the impulses and urges the company has, but is just too darn responsible to carry out without fear of consequence"
John Mayer said this of Tudor in his write up on the Black Bay, but I think this is more applicable to the more daring North Flag. With the North Flag Tudor is stepping out on a substantively different Horological world stage than their previous releases.
While there are significant, and well documented, cultural shifts at Tudor that are represented in the North Flag, there are also a multitude of subtle design ques that have, thus far, been overlooked or ignored by the online community.
A quick search of North Flag internet comments are, for the most part, opinions based off of Tudor's print and/or online ad campaign. "I speak not to disprove what they have spoke, but here I am to speak what I do know..." I stated in my Grand Seiko review that it is a watch that absolutely needs/deserves to be seen, held and worn to truly appreciate and the same holds true for the North Flag.
Let's do this:
The crown sits on a 40mm case and features a well done Shield and deep ridges for a secure grip and screws into the case without the spacer present in its Heritage siblings. The crown is also cone shaped....make no mistake this is a tool watch but right off the bat Tudor designs a subtle feature so that not everything is so "over the top."
The bracelet is simply outstanding and uses a "H-style" link design with 3 adjustment holes in the clasp.
Another design feature that mostly goes unnoticed is that the top of the inside edges of the center links are polished.
You don't really notice until the light hits it the right way but when it does, it is a very nice effect. Sometimes you see the polish effect, sometimes you don't. There is "fine watch" trying to break out of a tool watch
Again, notice the "hidden" polished area on the case. It is as if Tudor is hiding a "fine watch" underneath a tool watch.
One last thing on the bracelet - it is a common internet rumor that you can't use aftermarket straps - that is a lie. It attaches using smaller springbars so a strap maker need only get the correct measurements and you're good to go. As this myth is corrected, I would bet we start seeing more aftermarket straps for the North Flag.
Tudor recognized the bezel is a scratch heavy area and addressed it by incorporating a scratch resistant black ceramic bezel. The bezel is not as menacing as many think due to it slightly sloped and not wide as one would imagine. When looking down at your wrist you barely notice its small halo type ring around the dial.
The matte dial is shows off muted eggshell finish with tall applied markers and numbers with large channels filled with lume. Very legible in all conditions with great depth due to the height of the markers and numbers
The new MT5621 In House movement - many have derided it's "simpleton" design and appearance. No, it's not decorated, that would go against it's tool watch nature. But, as we have seen above, Tudor does enough to keep us interested....if you know what to look for.
Silicon Hairspring - antimagnetic
full balance bridge with a free-sprung Microstella balance wheel - 28,800 vph
Chronometer Certified - COSC
70hr power reserve - weekend goodness
Deep Fluted edges to the scewdown back:
Silicon harispring, full balance bridge
Ceramic bearings for the rotor
Small detail that I love - the difference and contrast in finishes between the rotor and the bridges
Deep engraving on the movement and rotor
Date aperture is unadorned but is stepped, a window frame in a window frame - another subtle touch from Tudor
The power reserve indicator draws many opinions but I love it - it's neither distracting nor overpowering. It fits in balance within the dial set up.
Very wearable, comfortable, accurate and soon to be versatile watch that incorporates several subtle features that belie it's tool watch designation. The whole is more than the sum of its parts and absolutely worthy of your consideration.
John Mayer said this of Tudor in his write up on the Black Bay, but I think this is more applicable to the more daring North Flag. With the North Flag Tudor is stepping out on a substantively different Horological world stage than their previous releases.
While there are significant, and well documented, cultural shifts at Tudor that are represented in the North Flag, there are also a multitude of subtle design ques that have, thus far, been overlooked or ignored by the online community.
A quick search of North Flag internet comments are, for the most part, opinions based off of Tudor's print and/or online ad campaign. "I speak not to disprove what they have spoke, but here I am to speak what I do know..." I stated in my Grand Seiko review that it is a watch that absolutely needs/deserves to be seen, held and worn to truly appreciate and the same holds true for the North Flag.
Let's do this:
The crown sits on a 40mm case and features a well done Shield and deep ridges for a secure grip and screws into the case without the spacer present in its Heritage siblings. The crown is also cone shaped....make no mistake this is a tool watch but right off the bat Tudor designs a subtle feature so that not everything is so "over the top."
The bracelet is simply outstanding and uses a "H-style" link design with 3 adjustment holes in the clasp.
Another design feature that mostly goes unnoticed is that the top of the inside edges of the center links are polished.
You don't really notice until the light hits it the right way but when it does, it is a very nice effect. Sometimes you see the polish effect, sometimes you don't. There is "fine watch" trying to break out of a tool watch
Again, notice the "hidden" polished area on the case. It is as if Tudor is hiding a "fine watch" underneath a tool watch.
One last thing on the bracelet - it is a common internet rumor that you can't use aftermarket straps - that is a lie. It attaches using smaller springbars so a strap maker need only get the correct measurements and you're good to go. As this myth is corrected, I would bet we start seeing more aftermarket straps for the North Flag.
Tudor recognized the bezel is a scratch heavy area and addressed it by incorporating a scratch resistant black ceramic bezel. The bezel is not as menacing as many think due to it slightly sloped and not wide as one would imagine. When looking down at your wrist you barely notice its small halo type ring around the dial.
The matte dial is shows off muted eggshell finish with tall applied markers and numbers with large channels filled with lume. Very legible in all conditions with great depth due to the height of the markers and numbers
The new MT5621 In House movement - many have derided it's "simpleton" design and appearance. No, it's not decorated, that would go against it's tool watch nature. But, as we have seen above, Tudor does enough to keep us interested....if you know what to look for.
Silicon Hairspring - antimagnetic
full balance bridge with a free-sprung Microstella balance wheel - 28,800 vph
Chronometer Certified - COSC
70hr power reserve - weekend goodness
Deep Fluted edges to the scewdown back:
Silicon harispring, full balance bridge
Ceramic bearings for the rotor
Small detail that I love - the difference and contrast in finishes between the rotor and the bridges
Deep engraving on the movement and rotor
Date aperture is unadorned but is stepped, a window frame in a window frame - another subtle touch from Tudor
The power reserve indicator draws many opinions but I love it - it's neither distracting nor overpowering. It fits in balance within the dial set up.
Very wearable, comfortable, accurate and soon to be versatile watch that incorporates several subtle features that belie it's tool watch designation. The whole is more than the sum of its parts and absolutely worthy of your consideration.
Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
Will this be a for sale post soon?
FYI, apparently the Pelagos rubber is a direct fit.
FYI, apparently the Pelagos rubber is a direct fit.
Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
You do a LOT of under-appreciated watches a great service with your detailed reviews, RMM. Nicely done.
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Ha! they all come up for sale eventuallyhoppyjr wrote:Will this be a for sale post soon?
FYI, apparently the Pelagos rubber is a direct fit.
And yes, that confirmation led to Art saying he would make a couple of straps for me when my turn comes up.
(no rush, Art, the bracelet really is killer)
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Thank you, Matt - I guess I am "the shepherd of lost sheep" every now and thenmatt.wu wrote:You do a LOT of under-appreciated watches a great service with your detailed reviews, RMM. Nicely done.
We live in such a fast paced world and it's good to show some things that might get missed.
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.....but how do you feel about BLM?rockmastermike wrote:Thank you, Matt - I guess I am "the shepherd of lost sheep" every now and thenmatt.wu wrote:You do a LOT of under-appreciated watches a great service with your detailed reviews, RMM. Nicely done.
We live in such a fast paced world and it's good to show some things that might get missed.
Too soon?
Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
Great review Mike. I never paid the North Flag much attention. Till today. Well done.
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Liked north flag since I tried it on but you made it a star and super tempting.
Amazing pics RMM
Amazing pics RMM
Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
damn, reading your post makes me want to take a closer look at the watch... thanks for the writeup. well done.
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Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
Great write up
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I like those quite a bit. Unfortunately they went with the integrated bracelet, which is a deal breaker for me. No nato no sale.
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Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
Watch looks way better in your pics. Hit me up when it's time to flip.
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Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
This often gets compared to the Explorer and the Heritage Ranger....I have owned all 3:
Ranger:
Hour/minute hands are similar in shape but very different in construction
Different case altogether
Larger dial in the Ranger and it wears larger (in width)
NF is a taller but not by much and not top heavy
No date on the Ranger - not a strike against, just a difference
Applied markers on the NF
Bottom line: I could easily have both in the box without any thought of duplication - they are just too different.
Explorer:
EXP bezel is a scratch magnet
EXP case has more refined shape
EXP applied/polished numbers numbers
Better clasp
More dress/ than tool
Bottom line: I could easily have both in the box without any thought of duplication - they are just too different.
With these most differences it's not an "either/or" proposition by "why not both (or all 3)?"
Ranger:
Hour/minute hands are similar in shape but very different in construction
Different case altogether
Larger dial in the Ranger and it wears larger (in width)
NF is a taller but not by much and not top heavy
No date on the Ranger - not a strike against, just a difference
Applied markers on the NF
Bottom line: I could easily have both in the box without any thought of duplication - they are just too different.
Explorer:
EXP bezel is a scratch magnet
EXP case has more refined shape
EXP applied/polished numbers numbers
Better clasp
More dress/ than tool
Bottom line: I could easily have both in the box without any thought of duplication - they are just too different.
With these most differences it's not an "either/or" proposition by "why not both (or all 3)?"
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Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
Nice review RMM- This watch was so much better in person.
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Thanks, I read that alot from people that have seen it / tried it on....and it's truejimyritz wrote:Nice review RMM- This watch was so much better in person.
You got itstreetracer101 wrote:Watch looks way better in your pics. Hit me up when it's time to flip.
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Thisaikiman44 wrote:Great review.
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As Matt described, it is an under-appreciated watch - but one that really shines if given the chance
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thoughtful, thorough review as per usual rmm standards.
really appreciate the macro photos to accompany the deep dive into the subtle details.
really appreciate the macro photos to accompany the deep dive into the subtle details.
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Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
As always, very well written and wonderful photos
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Love the NF, and this review really does it justice
Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
Awesome review Mike... I for one, really dig that watch.
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Re: Tudor North Flag 91210N
Fabulous pictures RMM! This watch felt lightweight when I tried it on, almost too lightweight for a steel watch on a bracelet.
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dukerules wrote:Love the NF, and this review really does it justice
Thanks, Rahul & Joe - Like other have mentioned, I, too was on the fence till I tried one on. The rest is history as they say.Joe C wrote:Awesome review Mike... I for one, really dig that watch.
It could be worn every day comfortably, not too heavy and not too light - just right.blowfish89 wrote:Fabulous pictures RMM! This watch felt lightweight when I tried it on, almost too lightweight for a steel watch on a bracelet.
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