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I want a SARG009...

Post by Wario406 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:38 pm

I saw one of these today, I fell in love and I want one. What's your advice? Where do I get one and what do I need to look for?

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Re: I want a SARG009...

Post by deepcdvr » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:32 pm

Cool piece - haven’t tried one yet
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Post by toxicavenger » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:39 pm

Carlo had one. They are a sweet model. But unfortunately not a big seller in the US.

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Post by Torrid » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:32 pm

I always liked these but never picked up one when they were still easy to come by from the Japanese sellers.

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Post by jswing » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:00 am

Pretty sure these have been discontinued for a few years, so used will be your only option. I did a quick google search and only found a few on ebay. They're in the $600-$900 range, which if I remember correctly is 2-3 times what they were new.

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Post by Wario406 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:29 am

toxicavenger wrote:Carlo had one. They are a sweet model. But unfortunately not a big seller in the US.
Did he mod it?!?
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Post by Wario406 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:33 am

jswing wrote:Pretty sure these have been discontinued for a few years, so used will be your only option. I did a quick google search and only found a few on ebay. They're in the $600-$900 range, which if I remember correctly is 2-3 times what they were new.
That’s what I was seeing too. I just missed one in the $550 range on Reddit - but, I shouldn’t be buying watches right now… I just told RJ that I was thinning my herd. Then I looked in my watch box and Im up 4 and have two incoming.

This disease is really testing my internal discipline.

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Post by jswing » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:36 am

Wario406 wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:33 am
jswing wrote:Pretty sure these have been discontinued for a few years, so used will be your only option. I did a quick google search and only found a few on ebay. They're in the $600-$900 range, which if I remember correctly is 2-3 times what they were new.
That’s what I was seeing too. I just missed one in the $550 range on Reddit - but, I shouldn’t be buying watches right now… I just told RJ that I was thinning my herd. Then I looked in my watch box and Im up 4 and have two incoming.

This disease is really testing my internal discipline.

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I want a SARG009...

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Post by Wario406 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:53 am

jswing wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:33 am
jswing wrote:Pretty sure these have been discontinued for a few years, so used will be your only option. I did a quick google search and only found a few on ebay. They're in the $600-$900 range, which if I remember correctly is 2-3 times what they were new.
That’s what I was seeing too. I just missed one in the $550 range on Reddit - but, I shouldn’t be buying watches right now… I just told RJ that I was thinning my herd. Then I looked in my watch box and Im up 4 and have two incoming.

This disease is really testing my internal discipline.

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Re: I want a SARG009...

Post by pete26 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:50 pm

Discontinued for a while now. I had one and loved it, still kicking myself for selling it.

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I want a SARG009...

Post by Wario406 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:55 am

Mine’s a pos. Ran like crap off and on, and this week it blew the hairspring.

Back to the repair shop.

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Re: I want a SARG009...

Post by CarloDWC » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:48 am

Interesting. I have had hundreds of Seikos and only one had a bad movement... They normally run nicely and keep time, they are also easy to adjust if one knows what to do.

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Post by Wario406 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:29 pm

CarloDWC wrote:Interesting. I have had hundreds of Seikos and only one had a bad movement... They normally run nicely and keep time, they are also easy to adjust if one knows what to do.
The accuracy on mine has wandered from -3m/d to +6m/d randomly. My watch guy felt he nailed it down, but two weeks later it blew the hair spring. Maybe that’s what was going on with it all along.

I’ll see what he says now.

I love how it looks and wears - but, it’s run like junk since I got it and I’ve heard others say that the 6R15 movement is a pretty big POS.


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Re: I want a SARG009...

Post by deepcdvr » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:02 am

Wario406 wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:53 am
jswing wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:33 am
jswing wrote:Pretty sure these have been discontinued for a few years, so used will be your only option. I did a quick google search and only found a few on ebay. They're in the $600-$900 range, which if I remember correctly is 2-3 times what they were new.
That’s what I was seeing too. I just missed one in the $550 range on Reddit - but, I shouldn’t be buying watches right now… I just told RJ that I was thinning my herd. Then I looked in my watch box and Im up 4 and have two incoming.

This disease is really testing my internal discipline.

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Re: I want a SARG009...

Post by ezcheese » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:02 am

deepcdvr wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:02 am
Wario406 wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:53 am
jswing wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:33 am
jswing wrote:Pretty sure these have been discontinued for a few years, so used will be your only option. I did a quick google search and only found a few on ebay. They're in the $600-$900 range, which if I remember correctly is 2-3 times what they were new.
That’s what I was seeing too. I just missed one in the $550 range on Reddit - but, I shouldn’t be buying watches right now… I just told RJ that I was thinning my herd. Then I looked in my watch box and Im up 4 and have two incoming.

This disease is really testing my internal discipline.

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Yes, I usually add watches when I'm downsizing too. :banghead: :lol:
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I am incredibly disciplined and NEVER buy/sell/trade watches unless I’ve thought about it for weeks, have ruled out all idiotic moves and that a potential transaction is a benefit to me financially while ugrading my “collection”.


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Re: I want a SARG009...

Post by CarloDWC » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:04 am

Wario406 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:29 pm
CarloDWC wrote:Interesting. I have had hundreds of Seikos and only one had a bad movement... They normally run nicely and keep time, they are also easy to adjust if one knows what to do.
The accuracy on mine has wandered from -3m/d to +6m/d randomly. My watch guy felt he nailed it down, but two weeks later it blew the hair spring. Maybe that’s what was going on with it all along.

I’ll see what he says now.

I love how it looks and wears - but, it’s run like junk since I got it and I’ve heard others say that the 6R15 movement is a pretty big POS.


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That sucks... if it was mine I would just replace the whole movement with a new one that way you have all new components. :grin: :thumbsup:

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Post by Wario406 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:09 pm

CarloDWC wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:29 pm
CarloDWC wrote:Interesting. I have had hundreds of Seikos and only one had a bad movement... They normally run nicely and keep time, they are also easy to adjust if one knows what to do.
The accuracy on mine has wandered from -3m/d to +6m/d randomly. My watch guy felt he nailed it down, but two weeks later it blew the hair spring. Maybe that’s what was going on with it all along.

I’ll see what he says now.

I love how it looks and wears - but, it’s run like junk since I got it and I’ve heard others say that the 6R15 movement is a pretty big POS.


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That sucks... if it was mine I would just replace the whole movement with a new one that way you have all new components. :grin: :thumbsup:
That may be next - Tbag recommended the same thing.


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Post by TSD » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:13 pm

Wario406 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:09 pm
CarloDWC wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:29 pm
CarloDWC wrote:Interesting. I have had hundreds of Seikos and only one had a bad movement... They normally run nicely and keep time, they are also easy to adjust if one knows what to do.
The accuracy on mine has wandered from -3m/d to +6m/d randomly. My watch guy felt he nailed it down, but two weeks later it blew the hair spring. Maybe that’s what was going on with it all along.

I’ll see what he says now.

I love how it looks and wears - but, it’s run like junk since I got it and I’ve heard others say that the 6R15 movement is a pretty big POS.


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That sucks... if it was mine I would just replace the whole movement with a new one that way you have all new components. :grin: :thumbsup:
That may be next - Tbag recommended the same thing.


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Assuming it’s the “C” type balance wheel, our watchmaker said those balances are causing this 6R15 issue. Seiko finally updated that movement because the old balance would get replaced and just fail again. I think the jury’s still out on whether the new 6R35 is more reliable.

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Post by Wario406 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:24 pm

TSD wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:09 pm
CarloDWC wrote:
Wario406 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:29 pm
CarloDWC wrote:Interesting. I have had hundreds of Seikos and only one had a bad movement... They normally run nicely and keep time, they are also easy to adjust if one knows what to do.
The accuracy on mine has wandered from -3m/d to +6m/d randomly. My watch guy felt he nailed it down, but two weeks later it blew the hair spring. Maybe that’s what was going on with it all along.

I’ll see what he says now.

I love how it looks and wears - but, it’s run like junk since I got it and I’ve heard others say that the 6R15 movement is a pretty big POS.


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That sucks... if it was mine I would just replace the whole movement with a new one that way you have all new components. :grin: :thumbsup:
That may be next - Tbag recommended the same thing.


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Assuming it’s the “C” type balance wheel, our watchmaker said those balances are causing this 6R15 issue. Seiko finally updated that movement because the old balance would get replaced and just fail again. I think the jury’s still out on whether the new 6R35 is more reliable.
argh… And, Im into this watch for ~$500 before repairs. A new movement is gonna be another +$400 plus install. There goes a bunch of fun money.


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Post by 59yukon01 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:21 pm

The 6R35 is no better than the 6R15. It just gives you 20 more hours of power reserve........aka 20 more hours of inconsistency.

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:lol:
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Post by Wario406 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:08 am

59yukon01 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:21 pm
The 6R35 is no better than the 6R15. It just gives you 20 more hours of power reserve........aka 20 more hours of inconsistency.
hopefully Grand Seiko's are more accurate...
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Post by sierra11b » Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:21 pm

Wario406 wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:08 am
59yukon01 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:21 pm
The 6R35 is no better than the 6R15. It just gives you 20 more hours of power reserve........aka 20 more hours of inconsistency.
hopefully Grand Seiko's are more accurate...
They are in spades.

Owned a few 6R35 and they don't seem to have the inconsistency of the R15 (owned 5?).... But whatever you get + or - is what you're left with unless you get it regulated.

Have one R35 and thankfully it's about +5seconds

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Post by ezcheese » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:35 am

Wario406 wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:08 am
59yukon01 wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:21 pm
The 6R35 is no better than the 6R15. It just gives you 20 more hours of power reserve........aka 20 more hours of inconsistency.
hopefully Grand Seiko's are more accurate...
My spring drive was +3 seconds over a full month
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