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Titanic submersible missing

Post by kempoman » Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:15 am

Did you guys saw this? Went down to Titanic wreck and gone missing. Ticket costs is USD250k.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872
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Re: Titanic submersible missing

Post by Chocodove » Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:23 am

I’ve been following. Crazy story and doesn’t seem like it’s going to end well.
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Post by hoppyjr » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:13 am

I understand explorers taking risks to make monumental discoveries and I understand military personnel taking risks in their missions.

I don’t understand unnecessary risks taken by rich people with more money than common sense.

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Post by Baffo » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:42 am

Plus it looks like the sub has no beacon and already went missing another time

https://twitter.com/pogue/status/167082 ... JcB3QajirQ

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Re: Titanic submersible missing

Post by Chocodove » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:47 am

Baffo wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:42 am
Plus it looks like the sub has no beacon and already went missing another time

https://twitter.com/pogue/status/167082 ... JcB3QajirQ
So they had the same problem last year, talked about adding a beacon to prevent it from happening again, and instead did nothing. Brilliant.
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Post by Baffo » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:51 am

Also great kudos to the shill journalist who experienced the issue and did not write about it at all.

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Re: Titanic submersible missing

Post by HapaHapa » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:13 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:13 am
I understand explorers taking risks to make monumental discoveries and I understand military personnel taking risks in their missions.

I don’t understand unnecessary risks taken by rich people with more money than common sense.
But it's so exciting......
I listened to an interview with a pro motocross rider that pretty much summed this issue up. He said you will get hurt, many times, and it's just a question of when.

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Post by Ryeguy » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:34 am

It is just a thrill ride for the uber wealthy, no different than those folks who decided to take a low orbit joy ride on a rocket last year.

Actually, it really isn't much different than those folks who go parasailing in the Bahama's. You pay X sum of money and trust the owners / operators of the equipment have done proper safety checks and maintenance. If they haven't, you risk severe injury or death.

Bottom line is seeking a thrill with the potential negative consequence of death seems fairly routine. The only difference here is the scale.

Speaking of "bottom lines", I believe the bottom is about 2.5 miles down. If that sub is somehow intact on the bottom, they will become the next tourist attraction themselves as I don't think there is any effective recovery method from that depth.

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Post by Chocodove » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:40 am

The problem is the submersible wasn’t built like a Rolex Deep Sea Challenge.
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Post by hoppyjr » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:56 am

Ryeguy wrote:….
Actually, it really isn't much different than those folks who go parasailing in the Bahama's. You pay X sum of money and trust the owners / operators of the equipment have done proper safety checks and maintenance. If they haven't, you risk severe injury or death.

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Yeah, I had a buddy who took his wife on one of those parasailing things in Mexico. They crashed her and she broke her back and both legs. He had to charter a medical air flight home @ $30k + back in the 90’s.

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Post by Wario406 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:58 am

Chocodove wrote:The problem is the submersible wasn’t built like a Rolex Deep Sea Challenge.
The sub has a design depth thats deeper than the bottom it’s probably sitting on - so, the chances are good, if it’s intact that it’s still holding pressure. The news is being tight lipped, but there’s almost zero chance that they’ll be able to recover it in time to save those onboard. Sad for them and their families. I cant judge them on why they all took such a risk or what could have or should have been done to ensure better safety. It was their choice. I think going on a dive like that is every bit as chancy as the low orbit flight that happened last year. I remember doing testing when I was on my sub - we launched old Mk14 torpedoes into the Marianas Trench and could hear them implode over the sonar… a very morbid sound. The pressure at that depth is 6500 lb/in2.
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Post by CGSshorty » Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:04 am

I hope one of them is wearing a DSSD or something cool like that.
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Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:32 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:13 am
I understand explorers taking risks to make monumental discoveries and I understand military personnel taking risks in their missions.

I don’t understand unnecessary risks taken by rich people with more money than common sense.
He should have just built a cock rocket like the Amazon guy.

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Post by 425ranger » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:03 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:32 am
hoppyjr wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:13 am
I understand explorers taking risks to make monumental discoveries and I understand military personnel taking risks in their missions.

I don’t understand unnecessary risks taken by rich people with more money than common sense.
He should have just built a cock rocket like the Amazon guy.
Funny you say that, a guy Hamish on board took that flight!
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Re: Titanic submersible missing

Post by rockmastermike » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:08 am

I still can’t my head around having no beacon

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Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:10 am

425ranger wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:03 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:32 am
hoppyjr wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:13 am
I understand explorers taking risks to make monumental discoveries and I understand military personnel taking risks in their missions.

I don’t understand unnecessary risks taken by rich people with more money than common sense.
He should have just built a cock rocket like the Amazon guy.
Funny you say that, a guy Hamish on board took that flight!
He probably should have skipped this trip and used the money to fabricate the matching car:
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Post by Ryeguy » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:12 am

CGSshorty wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:04 am
I hope one of them is wearing a DSSD or something cool like that.
The DSSD isn't rated deep enough. I think they are potentially around 13,000 feet, so more than the 3,900 meter rating of the DSSD.

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Post by Chocodove » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:17 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:12 am
CGSshorty wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:04 am
I hope one of them is wearing a DSSD or something cool like that.
The DSSD isn't rated deep enough. I think they are potentially around 13,000 feet, so more than the 3,900 meter rating of the DSSD.
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Post by Chocodove » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:19 am

Also, I am relatively certain that Rolex pressure tests their watches to at least 25% over stated resistance. No idea if that includes the DSC or DSSD since they are such specialty watches and require specific testing equipment.
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Post by Wario406 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:23 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:12 am
CGSshorty wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:04 am
I hope one of them is wearing a DSSD or something cool like that.
The DSSD isn't rated deep enough. I think they are potentially around 13,000 feet, so more than the 3,900 meter rating of the DSSD.
Sad to say, the Sinn EZM-2 Hydro would be one to survive at that depth. The problem is humans don't survive at that pressure.
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Post by Ryeguy » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:05 am

Chocodove wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:19 am
Also, I am relatively certain that Rolex pressure tests their watches to at least 25% over stated resistance. No idea if that includes the DSC or DSSD since they are such specialty watches and require specific testing equipment.
I'm sure it would be fine. I was just teasing given the extreme potential depth of this submarine.

I'm actually just shocked we are taking tourist trips to places I thought previously as being nearly unreachable just a few years ago. Then again, people climb Mount Everest every year too.

Morbid thought, but I kind of wonder what would happen if that sub got caught up on something and was stuck at 13,000' below the surface. How long would the seals hold before the vessel flooded? Given there would be little or no oxygen left in the people compartment, I guess the crew would go through anaerobic decomposition (AKA "fermentation").

Given the scenarios I've run through in my head, if they were able to recovered the sub to the surface, I'm not sure what Rolex service center I would send that DSSD to.

At the moment I'm thinking Dallas as they seem to be the most likely to have previous experience with this sort of cleaning.

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Post by HapaHapa » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:05 pm

Will it hurt (did it hurt?) when they hit the bottom? Found an online calculator for terminal velocity and trusting that site it's somewhere between 12 and 20 feet per second.
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Post by BBK357 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:29 pm

DEATH FROM ABOVE
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Post by Ryeguy » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:40 pm

HapaHapa wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:05 pm
Will it hurt (did it hurt?) when they hit the bottom? Found an online calculator for terminal velocity and trusting that site it's somewhere between 12 and 20 feet per second.
So, something like 8 - 12 MPH. That's like falling off a slow moving bicycle. I doubt the impact caused much of an issue assuming everyone was seated and slightly braced.

I know they had something like 96 hours of oxygen, but no one mentioned how many hours of electricity they have. They could die of hypothermia before dying from lack of oxygen. I think the water temperature at that depth is just a hair above freezing.

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