Titanic submersible missing

[Wario406]

They're gonna have all kinds of issue facing them. Temperature and water being the most important. Im guessing that they had some kind of toilet on board - but, I'd be stunned it it had capacity for 5 adults. The super hard parts are, first they need to be located, then recovered, then they have to open the sub from the outside. Im guessing they can get air into the sub if they can get to it. This'll be a new survival record if they make it. So many odds against them. Cant believe there's no beacon or means tracking. Even a 1000ft radio wire tail would be better than nothing.

[HapaHapa]

They're gonna have all kinds of issue facing them. Temperature and water being the most important. Im guessing that they had some kind of toilet on board - but, I'd be stunned it it had capacity for 5 adults. The super hard parts are, first they need to be located, then recovered, then they have to open the sub from the outside. Im guessing they can get air into the sub if they can get to it. This'll be a new survival record if they make it. So many odds against them. Cant believe there's no beacon or means tracking. Even a 1000ft radio wire tail would be better than nothing.

I was thinking it could get cold quick, however some insulation has crazy properties these days so it's possible thusday won't be their immediate threat. The 5 gallon water jug that is their "toilet" will become an annoyance quickly. Don't panic, take shallow breaths, clench and hold it, hope for sonar pings.

[Wario406]

I just read an article saying it had a lavatory similar to one in a private jet - but, given the other cheap off the shelf items on the boat I read about (camping lantern for light, video game controller to drive - ya, you read that right) I can only wonder what the toilet was. I think they have much bigger problems at this point. They should have been able to release their ballast to get back to the surface if they had an issue, so current theories are fire, entanglement, or a hull breach. I also read that the CEO had changed the test depth from 4000m to 3000m some time ago due to mechanical hull fatigue that had been identified, but the website still says 4000m. Details will continue to flow out - but, I think it'd truly be a miracle if they were alive and get recovered this many days after the loss of connection.

[Chocodove]

The more I read about this company and submersible the more it sounds like it was just a disaster to waiting to happen, and now it did.

[HapaHapa]

I just read an article saying it had a lavatory similar to one in a private jet - but, given the other cheap off the shelf items on the boat I read about (camping lantern for light, video game controller to drive - ya, you read that right) I can only wonder what the toilet was. I think they have much bigger problems at this point. They should have been able to release their ballast to get back to the surface if they had an issue, so current theories are fire, entanglement, or a hull breach. I also read that the CEO had changed the test depth from 4000m to 3000m some time ago due to mechanical hull fatigue that had been identified, but the website still says 4000m. Details will continue to flow out - but, I think it'd truly be a miracle if they were alive and get recovered this many days after the loss of connection.

Lol too many stress cracks doesn't mean decrease test depth, it means derate the operating depth.

Piss in a bottle. I hear that's standard for long-hour drives in the service. Or coffee can if your body isn't "equipped with a hose".

[59yukon01]

[Wario406]

I just read an article saying it had a lavatory similar to one in a private jet - but, given the other cheap off the shelf items on the boat I read about (camping lantern for light, video game controller to drive - ya, you read that right) I can only wonder what the toilet was. I think they have much bigger problems at this point. They should have been able to release their ballast to get back to the surface if they had an issue, so current theories are fire, entanglement, or a hull breach. I also read that the CEO had changed the test depth from 4000m to 3000m some time ago due to mechanical hull fatigue that had been identified, but the website still says 4000m. Details will continue to flow out - but, I think it'd truly be a miracle if they were alive and get recovered this many days after the loss of connection.

Lol too many stress cracks doesn't mean decrease test depth, it means derate the operating depth.

Piss in a bottle. I hear that's standard for long-hour drives in the service. Or coffee can if your body isn't "equipped with a hose".

You’re right. I mis-quoted that. I meant operating depth.

I don’t want to be cynical as lives are at risk or been lost - but more noise is coming out about the OceanGate politics and possible shit show around regulations and how they didn’t believe in them.

At this point I’d be stunned to learn that we haven’t been slowly dragged out by the media so they can make money on this hype. I feel bad for anyone who ends their time this way - but Im calling this dive over.

[demer03]

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[Chocodove]

At this point I’d be stunned to learn that we haven’t been slowly dragged out by the media so they can make money on this hype. I feel bad for anyone who ends their time this way - but Im calling this dive over.

There was an interview with the expedition leader today and he said pretty much the same thing. It’s over.

[CGSshorty]

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[Henryj]

I see a fewpossible outcomes

1. They’re hung up on something like the Russians a few years back. They may, or may not, be able to get free and come back up before they run out of air and power. If they do come up, that bolted down from the outside hatch is gonna look kinda stupid.

2. They simply lost control of the can and are sitting on the bottom. If they can’t release whatever external weights, at least they can complain to the CEO before they suffocate.

3. They had a hull failure at depth. With comms lost at 1:45 into the dive, they were several thousand feet down. The good news is water at that pressure crushes you so fast the nerve impulses don’t reach the brain so you never even know it happened.

In any case, I can’t really get all “pay stupid money, die stupid ways” about this. Shitty way for any one to go.

[Wario406]

I see a fewpossible outcomes

1. They’re hung up on something like the Russians a few years back. They may, or may not, be able to get free and come back up before they run out of air and power. If they do come up, that bolted down from the outside hatch is gonna look kinda stupid.

2. They simply lost control of the can and are sitting on the bottom. If they can’t release whatever external weights, at least they can complain to the CEO before they suffocate.

3. They had a hull failure at depth. With comms lost at 1:45 into the dive, they were several thousand feet down. The good news is water at that pressure crushes you so fast the nerve impulses don’t reach the brain so you never even know it happened.

In any case, I can’t really get all “pay stupid money, die stupid ways” about this. Shitty way for any one to go.

I hear you brother. All your statements are spot on. I think it’s point 3.

[Ryeguy]

I’m actually kind of surprised the ballast weight(s) aren’t attached in a fail safe method. You’d think releasing those weights would be one of the most well tested and reliable mechanisms of the sub.

I agree with our resident bubble heads that scenario #3 seems the most likely.

As a dedicated skimmer, I don’t ever foresee myself embarking on a similar adventure.

[demer03]

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[Chocodove]

No idea what this guy’s credentials are, but a lot of interesting info here not being reported/commented on via mainstream sources.

https://youtu.be/4dka29FSZac

[kempoman]

the news was saying less than 40 hours of oxygen left if the vessel still intact.

[streetracer101]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sYVVGpZNyws

I was hoping this would be Terry's toilet bowl test.

[Sidheguitarist]

One, I wouldn’t let myself get permanently bolted into a tube in my front yard, let alone pay for it at the bottom of the Atlantic. And two, this:

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[Captdave]

I see a fewpossible outcomes

1. They’re hung up on something like the Russians a few years back. They may, or may not, be able to get free and come back up before they run out of air and power. If they do come up, that bolted down from the outside hatch is gonna look kinda stupid.

2. They simply lost control of the can and are sitting on the bottom. If they can’t release whatever external weights, at least they can complain to the CEO before they suffocate.

3. They had a hull failure at depth. With comms lost at 1:45 into the dive, they were several thousand feet down. The good news is water at that pressure crushes you so fast the nerve impulses don’t reach the brain so you never even know it happened.

In any case, I can’t really get all “pay stupid money, die stupid ways” about this. Shitty way for any one to go.

I hear you brother. All your statements are spot on. I think it’s point 3.

Agree wholeheartedly with both of you. Sad and apparently preventable situation.
You would never get me into a tube and send me to the bottom of the ocean!


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[Ryeguy]

Well, the goods news is the rescue team seems to have detected some noises with it the search area, so at least a clue that may lead to something.

The bad news is there doesn’t seem to be a rescue sub with both the depth rating and lifting capacity to get to the missing vessel.

I guess they would have to use some remote vehicle to attach cables to sub and lift it from the surface. I’m guessing that process takes enough time to firmly put it in the “recovery” category.

[Wario406]

Well, the goods news is the rescue team seems to have detected some noises with it the search area, so at least a clue that may lead to something.

The bad news is there doesn’t seem to be a rescue sub with both the depth rating and lifting capacity to get to the missing vessel.

I guess they would have to use some remote vehicle to attach cables to sub and lift it from the surface. I’m guessing that process takes enough time to firmly put it in the “recovery” category.

Where did you read about the rescue team detecting noises?

[CGSshorty]

Well, the goods news is the rescue team seems to have detected some noises with it the search area, so at least a clue that may lead to something.

The bad news is there doesn’t seem to be a rescue sub with both the depth rating and lifting capacity to get to the missing vessel.

I guess they would have to use some remote vehicle to attach cables to sub and lift it from the surface. I’m guessing that process takes enough time to firmly put it in the “recovery” category.

Where did you read about the rescue team detecting noises?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65969476.amp

[Wario406]

Well, the goods news is the rescue team seems to have detected some noises with it the search area, so at least a clue that may lead to something.

The bad news is there doesn’t seem to be a rescue sub with both the depth rating and lifting capacity to get to the missing vessel.

I guess they would have to use some remote vehicle to attach cables to sub and lift it from the surface. I’m guessing that process takes enough time to firmly put it in the “recovery” category.

Where did you read about the rescue team detecting noises?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65969476.amp

Thanks - that's encouraging and sad news at the same time.

[unixshrk]

[HapaHapa]

Looks like this disaster has transitioned into joke territory, so I wanted to point out that in terms of f#ck around and find out this one really went off the deep end.