REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

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REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Sooner » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:05 am

When I first posted photos of the Dievas Vortex on Y3, I called it a “poor man’s Kobold.” In hindsight that was a mistake because it needlessly provoked comparisons between two watches that have little in common beyond sharing the same Fricker-made case and bezel, and fanned the petty controversy over how and why Dievas came to acquire cases originally manufactured for Kobold.

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If the cases were there, aren’t we as watch enthusiasts better served for someone having brought them to market in a new watch model? In terms of both mechanics and dial design, the two watches could hardly be more different, and in my opinion there’s nothing to be gained by evaluating the Vortex except on its own merits.

SPECS

Movement: Swiss-made automatic ETA-2824-2
Case: micro-blasted aerospace grade titanium, fabricated in Germany by Fricker; automatic helium release valve
Case back: Screw-down solid titanium with twin gaskets
Dimensions: 44mm diameter, 14mm thick, 54mm lug to lug; 22mm lug width
Bezel: Micro-blasted titanium 60-click timing bezel
Crown: screw down crown, double o-ring, 8 o’clock position
Crystal: 4mm domed sapphire crystal with anti-reflective coating
WR: 500 meters
Luminance: Super Luminova

CASE

“Aerospace grade titanium?” Sounded like hyperbole, but some quick research proved me wrong. There is, in fact, a particular high-grade titanium alloy used by the aerospace industry. Panerai uses it also, and Kobold obviously (other watch brands may as well, but I didn’t pursue my research that far).

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The Vortex case is immaculate in finish as well as in its clean, precisely defined lines and edges. Very spare, very utilitarian, very angular, very German. As the close-up shows, the “micro-blasted” finish is perfectly uniform.

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The solid titanium screw-down case back doesn’t have the micro-blasted finish of the case, but it does have a rather goofy graphic intended to represent a swirling vortex. Oh well, no one has to see that.

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DIAL & BEZEL

I wasn’t sure about the pilot-inspired dial. In photos, the graphics seemed a bit busy and “heavy” (for want of a better description). Must be a case of the “camera adding 10 pounds,” because seeing the watch in person brought a pleasant surprise — the dial elements are elegant, nicely proportioned and well balanced. This is actually one of the easiest to read dials I’ve owned, on a par with my dear departed Halios Holotype for quick, at-a-glance legibility.

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The micro-blasted titanium 60-click bezel is firm and sure in its operation, with a fit and finish that’s consistent with the rest of this Fricker-built watch.

Be forewarned: If you can’t live without a date window, you won’t like the Vortex. Personally, I enjoy the convenience of not having to fuss with setting the date on at least one of my watches.

CROWN

The Vortex is equipped with a screw down crown located at the 8 o’clock position. Because of the very pronounced crown guards, I found it difficult to operate at first, but it just takes some getting used to. The crown action is very smooth and firm, easily on a par with my Steelfish. (Apologies for the lint in this pic.)

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LUME

The lume is better than I initially reported, but not world-class; probably adequate for all but the most hardcore lume freaks. I’d give it a 7.5 on a scale of 10.

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STRAP

The Vortex comes with a thick waterproof leather strap and signed pre-v buckle. I’ve seen a couple of complaints that the strap is too stiff, but I like it just fine and it’s definitely a quality strap. The Vortex is not offered with a bracelet (not an issue for me personally, as I generally prefer straps anyway).

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FIT & COMFORT

At 44mm, the Vortex has nice presence without overwhelming my 7-inch wrist. This is my first titanium watch and I’m still a little amazed by how light and comfortable it is. It’s definitely a watch you can wear all day long and hardly know it’s there.

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CONCLUSION

Given the overall quality of this watch and a price of just 880 USD, I’m hard pressed to think of too many better values out there right now. What I like most of all about the Vortex, and why it will assume a permanent place in my collection, is the fact that it’s not even remotely redundant with anything else I own — a pilot watch, housed in a tactical titanium case, built to diver specs . . . a unique combination!

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Tragic » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:09 am

I'd call it a "Smart Man's Kobold" :cheers:
Excellent review and pics :thumbsup:

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by aikiman44 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:09 am

From an SMG-1 owner, I agree. Very cool watch and fantastic price. :thumbsup:
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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Chris S. » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:14 am

Great Honest Review Sooner :clap:
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Post by cali kid » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:25 am

All i know is you got a bada$$ watch that i should have pulled the trigger on but didnt want to upset the management!! :tap: Last time i do that and dont care where i'm at, think it came down to being a sponsor at 3Tand that use to be a good enough reason to bitch about a watch! :cussing: Anyway love the look and think we can all agree Fricker makes a great case and if you havent heard ETA makes a pretty darn good movement!! Congrats to all the had the smarts to think for yourself and get an awesomw watch at a wonderful price! :clap:




















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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Sooner » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:33 am

cali kid wrote:All i know is you got a bada$$ watch that i should have pulled the trigger on but didnt want to upset the management!! :tap: Last time i do that and dont care where i'm at, think it came down to being a sponsor at 3Tand that use to be a good enough reason to bitch about a watch!
I used to feel that way and my dealings with Mr. Asspar have been as unpleasant as anybody's. But then I realized if I allow those feelings to prevent me from buying a cool watch, then it's like I'm letting the terrorists win, right?

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Post by WatchNoob » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:59 am

Great watch, great Review. Thanks for sharing. I read a bit in the past about the whole situation, but unaware of the drama that happened at Y3. If you have a 3rd party making cases for Kobold and there's some left over that another party is interested in, why would you let them set around and collect dust? I guess Kobold screwed up and didn't but the whole inventory, didn't get a patent, or didn't write the contract to claim exclusivity. Anyway, I think it's a great watch, enjoy!! :cheers:

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by SCM64 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:14 am

I prefer it to the Kobold. :cheers:
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Post by suddha » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:18 am

Very clean design. I think the pilot dial and hands work. Makes it less of a "diver" and more of a "do-anything" watch.
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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by snootydog » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:40 am

Ooooooh nooooo, thats another watch added to my wish list. -Andy (hey,where's my union jack flag gone?)




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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Sooner » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:15 am

WatchNoob wrote:I read a bit in the past about the whole situation, but unaware of the drama that happened at Y3.:
"Drama" might be an overstatement. It's just that the discussion quickly went from the watch itself to the (non) controversy around its origin; a controversy instigated largely by Sean and pretty much exhausted in earlier discussions.

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by SCM64 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:16 am

Sooner wrote:
WatchNoob wrote:I read a bit in the past about the whole situation, but unaware of the drama that happened at Y3.:
"Drama" might be an overstatement. It's just that the discussion quickly went from the watch itself to the (non) controversy around its origin; a controversy instigated largely by Sean and pretty much exhausted in earlier discussions.
True dat. :fro:
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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Sooner » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:18 am

SCM64 wrote:I prefer it to the Kobold. :cheers:
Ironically, having the Vortex has piqued my interest in Kobolds. Go figure. :shrug:

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by BSears » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:37 am

Excellent review and great pics, really shows that watch well. The vortex is certainly an interesting piece. The drama we all know of pushed a lot of folks away from looking at it or considering it. Good to hear a review of this one that leaves the drama at the door. Being Fricker, you know it's going to be a quality piece and it looks like it has no shortage of that, and a helluva price too. John hit it right - Smart Man's Kobold indeed. Nice snag! :cheers:
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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Sooner » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:21 am

BSears wrote:The drama we all know of pushed a lot of folks away from looking at it or considering it.
Which is why I thought it deserved to be revisited.

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by R@cerx » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:13 pm

Great review and pictures . Certainly re-enforces my decision to order. Can't wait for mine to be delivered.

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Post by ezcheese » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:28 pm

Very nice review & pics! I think this is the first official DWC review! That means I need to set up a review forum and stick a copy of this review in it. I'll add that to the to-do list. :cheers:
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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Pallet Spoon » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:38 pm

It's taken me a while to warm up to it ... but I really like it now. Definetly better than the Kobold design overall to my eye :shh: .

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by deepcdvr » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:59 pm

Great review, pics and especially love the lack of DRAMA.. :whistle:

Personally, though, I like the military look of the Kobold better, but not three thousand dollars better! :o

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Sooner » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:07 pm

ezcheese wrote:Very nice review & pics! I think this is the first official DWC review!
What do I win? :bananastoner:

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by ezcheese » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:35 pm

Sooner wrote:
ezcheese wrote:Very nice review & pics! I think this is the first official DWC review!
What do I win? :bananastoner:
It's a surprise. :gift:
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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Seth » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:01 pm

Dievas definitely took advantage of a situation at Fricker and for that I applaud them.

Since I now own a Fricker Kobold, I understand how nicely built they are and I'm certain that the Vortex is a nice watch, but the MONSTER DIEVAS logo isn't my taste.

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by esantelli » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:37 pm

Personally the Y3 drama is what made me buy the watch, originally I was going to give it to a partner who was retiring but i found a Dievas Fleiger timer and since he is a pilot he got that one and kept the Vortex. :twisted:
Sean was such a putz about the whole thing, so damn definitive about all the "behind the scenes" activity like he was part of it all, horseshit, I really had to get one to see for myself, having nearly bought an SMG-1 a dozen times.
It is what it is, a great well built Fricker cased hybrid and an extraordinary deal frankly.
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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Seth » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:39 pm

I'm not sure why it needs to be anything other than that.

Its a Fricker and ETA watch. The rest is just drama.

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Re: REVIEW: DIEVAS VORTEX

Post by Sooner » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:55 pm

If the SMG-1 weren't so damned expensive, I could see owning both . . . a cool tactical GMT AND a pilot on steroids.

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